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Gilbert Gauthe……….
The first priest brought to trial in the US for sexually “abusing”, my ass, raping a child, 11 to be more precise.
He was sentenced to 20 years and served 10. Let’s see, that’s 334 days per raped CHILD.
Now, the kicker and the reason for my wanting to bring down the church of latter day rapists. In 1997 he was accused of molesting a 3 year old boy. WTF? Hey, I’m as pervy as you get (well, not compared to these fucks), but what….the……fuck? A 3 year old? Hey, I can find some sort of sexual appeal in almost anything, animate or inanimate, but a 3 year old? There is not a cell in my body that can comprehend that. In fairness, I didn’t read the details, but he doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt, not that this would be the place for it anyway.
Not to worry dear readers……..in 1997 he plead guilty to the misdemeanor of “injury to a child” and was put on probation. Just out of curiosity, how does someone come out of a 20 year prison stint and not BE on probation?
By the way, I found this while researching and came across an article of Gauthe being arrested in 2008 for not being arrested as a sex offender. I guess in his case it’s a “grey area” being a Catholic and all.
I’m also curious, I would think that molesting a three year old would in some way be a violation of something after being convicted of 11 counts of “child molestation”. Why the fuck don’t they say rape? He forced his dick into the ass of an 8 year old and boy and made him suck his cock. Doesn’t that somehow qualify as rape? If you go look up the definitions of those words, it’s an insult to his victims to label them as molestations. I won’t go into it here, because I saw too many funny things I could write based on Webster’s (He was a bible thumping asshole by the way), which I will save for the book.
In the trial, the plaintiff’s attorney asked the child’s mother what she thought when she looked at the Bishop, who was at the table and she looked at him and she said I think of when Gauthe ejaculated in my boys ass and his mouth and he made him ejaculate in his! OUCH! Let’s just say the courtroom squirmed a tad. (This was Louisiana in 1985)
Lastly, I did a search at Fox News and I just couldn’t find reference to any of this. I searched under “righteous indignation”, “we want all pedophiles killed”, “they should never get out of prison” and “if I ever got my hands on them”, but all I came up with was “I am a Catholic”, Sean douche, and “I am a Catholic”, Bill O douche.
Huh, go figure.
you god owned God
I just don’t know how to respond. Gee, forgive me.
I did read all the posts, you god owned God. Majorly. Just except it.
“sorry you don’t have family you love”
Funny that you can say something like that and consider that to be a valid response to my comment. That’s just plain silly. Can you explain how you come to that conclusion? I mean explain with actual justification.
Even if you, now, want to shrug off your previous defense of the KKK, it does indeed expose you as a bigot, and you never were able to admit you were wrong about never mentioning their website until it became necessary for you to try to rationalize some irrational nonsense.
Continuing your line of hypocrisy, the first name calling, which I have no problem with, was you. Just keep your facts straight.
Lastly, if you took the time to read the mission statement, the contact, the opening line about what this website is, etc., maybe you’d have a clue, but you’re either too lazy or stupid.
There is a page up there for civil discourse, which is mentioned in the mission statement. If at any point you want true conversation, that’s where it will happen. Anywhere else on here, I’ll say pretty much whatever the fuck I want.
In fact, this ended up being to half ass serious for the intended purpose of this.
So, either lighten the fuck up, on here, or start a real conversation on the other page and I’ll be glad to join.
No, no you have exposed yourself. This whole kkk thing is just silly, I never said anything about the kkk other than to compare them with christianity. You don’t get it or want to admit your mistake, you will never grow. you are intellectually stunted. outstanding.
I love a person who I grew up with and have always had a good relationship with, not just because we are related, sorry if you don’t have family you love.
the bottom line is you called me a hypocrite, yet I have said NOTHING hypocritical. You on the other hand, in just one post, defended sending your kids to church, then go on to say how evil and harmful to children christianity is. But it seems to be just one more word you don’t know the meaning of.
You called me a bigot, and your reason was because I said the klan claims to teach people self respect. (notice I said CLAIMS, dummy) Yet it is you who denigrates mentally handicapped people, with stereotypes and childish name calling.
Anyone who reads this will see that you are a small person incapable of growth. The reason you called me stupid, when you thought I made comments that you actually made is, because you know I am right and are just too proud to admit it.
And finally it is clear that all I have said about your lack of understanding concerning the english language is true. The lame definition of religion you give does not prove that catholicism is a religion separate from other FORMS of christianity, and why the definition of faith??? When did either of us say anything about faith?? Never mind, At first I just wanted to know if this was a blog worth reading. Then I learned it was not, beyond a good laugh at a simpleton. But now it is just boring, and I will not be recommending it to others, and will in fact just tell them not to waste their time. Good day sir!!!
Stupid people are fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun.
Yes, now all of a sudden after demanding precisions from me, you can make assumptions just throwing in the KKK’s website out of nowhere. Can’t you even admit when you make a mistake? Are you that small of a person?
How the fuck do you think that has made kids feel for centuries you moron?”
When children are told that if they don’t think a certain way, or if they “sin” they will burn in hell for all eternity it’s pretty easy to know how many of them feel. One does not need be Freud. Additionally, many of the thousands who have been raped have spoken about how they feel, moron. So, we KNOW, get it, moron? WE KNOW.
Catholicism is a sect of christianity not a religion. My stars you are dumb
How many people do you think you could say this to that wouldn’t laugh in your face? Yes, Catholicism is a sect of christianity, as are the other 33,400 + denominations.
Religion: 1 a: the state of a religious b (1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
Faith: 2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion.
Do you need a map to make the connection? You really don’t think Catholicism is a religion, huh?
No, you’re not a bigot because of anything you say to me. I enjoy the things you say to me. I enjoy having you here. I don’t take any of it personally. Why do you think I invented this website? Ole Yeller down there don’t git it yet, but maybe he will.
I don’t you get the point here yet, but that’s OK.
You’re a bigot because you defend the KKK. Just the mere fact that SEEN their website is disturbing, but you have defended them. I also thought about something else you earlier said. You have a relative that is a skinhead or KKK member or something along those lines, all the same shit, different uniforms. Anyway, you said you don’t like his “hate” or beliefs or something similar, but you love him because of your relationship. I know I’m not quoting you, but I think I have the gist, true? If not, let me know.
However, why is it that we have to “love” relatives? If I have a relative that believes in hating and bigotry I don’t feel any obligation whatsoever to love that person, nor would I. Love is not unconditional. If I have a relative that is a pedophile rapist priest, I have no love for him, at all. The only thought I have for that person is for his victims.
Anyway, keep at it.
Hey Yellow……..
Have you read the mission statement? The headline? The contact info? Do you have the slightest understanding of what the fuck is going on? No, I didn’t think so.
Remember, my opinion is the only one that counts, and only one that is right. I am Fox News, god version.
Did you read every post between Blackmetal and I? No, I didn’t think so.
You’re a moron. No, I take that back, that would be an insult to morons.
Just because you rode the short bus to school and learned to read a little doesn’t mean they taught comprehension at the school across the street. Yes, Mummy bought you a compoooter for xmas, but you should be careful when using it. Don’t drool your chocolate milk on it.
You’ve been banished for being retarded and someone letting you spew your idiocy in public.
Go in peace young tard.
I hate to break it to you God, but you got owned. You really do seem to have trouble understanding English. That guy was polite, until you started calling him ( actually your self) stupid. And that whole kkk thing….you didn’t get it? Seriously? Wow.
“There is no mention of the KKK’s website here or anywhere until this most recent post so don’t start making up shit to try to justify the stupid shit you said.”
Right because I mistook you for a person who would be ably to understand I was drawing a parallel between two evil organizations who pretend to teach good values, while the real lesson is hate. Did you not understand when I said “lessons that might seem positive if not for the teacher.” or must I explain that too?? Its really simple.
“I then went back and answered your questions yet you can’t seem to get off this. Why?”
Because, like I said, I found you “answers” stupid, and not at all derived from anything beyond 6th grade thinking. (I’m being generous) For example:”(weather is shit like rain, wind, etc.)”
You see, I never said anything more about WHAT you quote mined, only that you did in fact quote mine, and that was a response to you saying you didn’t. Am I not supposed to answer you directly now?
“Yet you can’t offer up one reason why, just the statement.”
No I will not sit here and point out great intellectuals who are less than 2000 years old, or who did not come through the christian church. Saying they all came through the christian church is unbelievably stupid.
“To you. Sorry, you don’t matter on here as much as I do.”
It was irrelevant to any argument, you have not proven it’s relevance. Only your own insecurity. Is than why you created this site,? Because you are stepped on and ignored in real life you needed a place where you could feel in controle…GOD??
“No, they won’t.”
Yes they will. How do I know this? Every one knows this, even you say this is true….read on.
“What’s your point?” Here’s my point: “It’s the church that claims to punish people forever and they are evil if they don’t live a certain way and jesus won’t love them if they don’t abide by “his” way of living.
How the fuck do you think that has made kids feel for centuries you moron?” Exactly what I said, then I asked how you felt about this happening to your kids….really, do you have brain damage? I don’t mean that as an insult, I really do get that impression.
“My eyes are more open than your ever will be and no religion has ever done more harm than the catholic religion, though I’m sure there are plenty that will give them a run for the money. I guess if you want to lump all of christianity together they’re the big winners, but for the last couple centuries, the catholics are the clear champs.”
Catholicism is a sect of christianity not a religion. My stars you are dumb.
“You have the arrogance to even suggest to know what kind of father I am even though you have never met me and have no idea what kind of person I am, how I interact with my kids, have never met my kids, don’t know how they are and yet can claim I am “to afraid to be a father”.” All I have said about your fathering pertains to what you have wrote. You say ” It’s the church that claims to punish people forever and they are evil if they don’t live a certain way and jesus won’t love them if they don’t abide by “his” way of living.
How the fuck do you think that has made kids feel for centuries you moron?” And yet you allow the church to teach this to your kids…you tell me, is that good parenting?
“You’re an intellectually inferior person to me.”
You are certainly not doing very well to prove that to be true….
“Now you further your condescending arrogance by making a completely ignorant, stupid, inaccurate moronic statement. You truly are stupid. I mean like big time, “yawn”, Sarah Palin stupid. I’m atheist, which I don’t need to point out or prove to you, but if you haven’t figured that out you give stupid people a bad name. jesus fucking christ you must have acid leaking from your frontal lobe.”
Oh, an atheist who defends teaching his kids that atheists are evil, I get it. And do you think people have acid in their brains???
This is arguably your least coherent comment and that is no easy trick. Condemning catholicism is one of the easiest things I do in my daily life. Next, is condemning the christian right followed by condemning all of christianity because it’s filled with hypocritical (you), bigoted (you), intolerant (you) dipshits (most definitely YOU).
I see I’m a bigot because I condemn the same things you SAY you condem. I can’t post here anymore? why, I thought a person writing a “no holds” kind of blog would have a thicker skin than that. I agree with you about the pope, sean hanity, etc, imagine when one of their fans comes along, you think I’ve been mean? Good luck being lonely here as you seem to be …..intellectually. Thanks for the laughs.
OK asshole, so I guess the gloves are off, huh? You decide to start “name” calling, which means you have conceded and you no longer have a single valid point to make and can’t (and didn’t) address a single point I made.
Blackmetalworkshop said: What about self respect and protection of your community
There is no mention of the KKK’s website here or anywhere until this most recent post so don’t start making up shit to try to justify the stupid shit you said.
Now you’re just lying. Another sign of intellectual weakness.
Taking two sentences out of four or five, out of context, making it seem like a person was saying something they did not, IS quote mining, and it IS what you did, weather you meant to or not. Wake the fuck up.
I then went back and answered your questions yet you can’t seem to get off this. Why? (weather is shit like rain, wind, etc.)
“My kids will learn lessons of value, negative, positive and everything in-between having nothing to do with church. ”
Irrelevant.
To you. Sorry, you don’t matter on here as much as I do.
Yes and what do you think the chruch is going to tell them about their dad? That he is evil, that he doesn’t love them, that he is going to be punished for ever? How do you think this will make them feel?
No, they won’t. So what. What’s your point? It’s the church that claims to punish people forever and they are evil if they don’t live a certain way and jesus won’t love them if they don’t abide by “his” way of living.
How the fuck do you think that has made kids feel for centuries you moron?
REALLY?! Wow, I find it hard to believe, someone could say something so stupid.
Yet you can’t offer up one reason why, just the statement.
Again REALLY?! why only the catholic church? I don’t know what kind of church your kids go to, but I’m sure they have done enough evil to warrant these same feelings being applied to them as well. open your fucking eyes you fence walker. Why are you so afraid to be an atheist, and stand up for who you SAY you are, why are you so afraid to be a father and stand up for your children?
My eyes are more open than your ever will be and no religion has ever done more harm than the catholic religion, though I’m sure there are plenty that will give them a run for the money. I guess if you want to lump all of christianity together they’re the big winners, but for the last couple centuries, the catholics are the clear champs.
You have the arrogance to even suggest to know what kind of father I am even though you have never met me and have no idea what kind of person I am, how I interact with my kids, have never met my kids, don’t know how they are and yet can claim I am “to afraid to be a father”.
You’re an intellectually inferior person to me.
First, I already know, and second you are an agnostic who is still worried that maybe the bible was right, and the last place anyone needs to get a lesson about the church is from you.
Now you further your condescending arrogance by making a completely ignorant, stupid, inaccurate moronic statement. You truly are stupid. I mean like big time, “yawn”, Sarah Palin stupid. I’m atheist, which I don’t need to point out or prove to you, but if you haven’t figured that out you give stupid people a bad name. jesus fucking christ you must have acid leaking from your frontal lobe.
But instead you defend it, then go on to condemn catholicism in the most absolute terms, failing to understand, that the people who think one christian cult is better than another, are christians. It is obvious you know as much about the meaning of subjective, as you do the meaning of verbatim. Please look these things up, it may help you to not look so silly.
This is arguably your least coherent comment and that is no easy trick. Condemning catholicism is one of the easiest things I do in my daily life. Next, is condemning the christian right followed by condemning all of christianity because it’s filled with hypocritical (you), bigoted (you), intolerant (you) dipshits (most definitely YOU).
You are too stupid to continue to be allowed to post here.
Sincerely,
God.
Go in peace.
Yep, you answered the questions clearly….you have a hard time understanding English. If you look at a kkk or other white supremacist web site you will see that they claim to teach self respect etc. This is not me defending the klan you dolt, this is the klan telling YOU what the KLAN teaches. Do I believe you can learn something positive from the klan NO, (I don’t know how to make it any clearer for you) nor do I think you can learn ANYTHING positive from chruch.
Taking two sentences out of four or five, out of context, making it seem like a person was saying something they did not, IS quote mining, and it IS what you did, weather you meant to or not. Wake the fuck up.
I never said, that you said, that church was the ONLY place they could learn anything of value, I defy you to point out where I did,… see how dumb that sounds? What I did say is that you are ignoring the negativity of the church to the detriment of your kids.
“My kids will learn lessons of value, negative, positive and everything in-between having nothing to do with church. ”
Irrelevant.
“What they learn from church will probably have more to do with me than church.”
Yes and what do you think the chruch is going to tell them about their dad? That he is evil, that he doesn’t love them, that he is going to be punished for ever? How do you think this will make them feel?
“Unfortunately, there is much more negative to learn than positive.”
I refer you to my statement above this one, and ask if you care? You really don’t seem to.
“I find it hard to believe that there have not been intelligent, forward thinking scholars and teachers that we could learn from over the last 2000 years that came through the churches (everybody had to).”
REALLY?! Wow, I find it hard to believe, someone could say something so stupid.
“I don’t think catholic church has anything of value to add to society, or let me rephrase, they have perpetrated such horrors on society that no matter what else they do, no matter what other message they have, it is moot in my opinion.”
Again REALLY?! why only the catholic church? I don’t know what kind of church your kids go to, but I’m sure they have done enough evil to warrant these same feelings being applied to them as well. open your fucking eyes you fence walker. Why are you so afraid to be an atheist, and stand up for who you SAY you are, why are you so afraid to be a father and stand up for your children?
The yawn was because I’m so sick of hearing about sara palin, as long as people (you too) keep talking about her, she will never go away. I don’t need you to explain what the church does wrong, to me. First, I already know, and second you are an agnostic who is still worried that maybe the bible was right, and the last place anyone needs to get a lesson about the church is from you.
You keep responding to me as if you think I defend christianity, while you are the one that sends your kids to church then has no problem rationalizing and justifying it. This causes you to mistake statements YOU made as mine, and then answering them and even calling them stupid. It is you who is stupid, and you will remain stupid until you realize, all you would have had to say was, My ex sends them to church what can I do she has custody….etc. But instead you defend it, then go on to condemn catholicism in the most absolute terms, failing to understand, that the people who think one christian cult is better than another, are christians. It is obvious you know as much about the meaning of subjective, as you do the meaning of verbatim. Please look these things up, it may help you to not look so silly.
What about self respect and protection of your community. I do not defend the klan but they do teach things that, if not for the teacher would be seen as positive. I have a family member who is a nazi skin-head and i love him very much but i hate the group he is a part of. the same goes for my christian family members. you seem to be focused on these “things of value” (that your children can get without church by the way) and ignoring the negatives (some they could not get out side of church).
This is how you quote mined: You quoted me as saying “what about self respect and protection of your community. i do not defend the klan but they do teach things that, if not for the teacher would be seen as positive”
The point is something of value can be found in the most evil groups on the planet, but that does not mean you should send them your children. Good job avoiding the question though
I didn’t “quote mine” you, I just didn’t realize I had to copy everything verbatim.
I did answer the very first things you said, you just didn’t like the response because what you said was stupid. You did defend the KKK and if you’re idea of defending your community is using the KKK then I hope (actually, I’m sure) we don’t live in the same part of the country. They are WHO WE NEED PROTECTION FROM. Self respect? Are you fucking kidding me? Maybe we’re having a break down in communication here because you seem like a reasonable person so I can’t imagine you’re offering up the KKK as “protection for the community” and “self respect”.
Crazy me, I am focused on things of value and I never, ever claimed the only place my kids could get a specific lesson of value would be in a church. I defy you to go find a quote of mine that says I did.
My kids will learn lessons of value, negative, positive and everything in-between having nothing to do with church. What they learn from church will probably have more to do with me than church. Unfortunately, there is much more negative to learn than positive.
I find it hard to believe that there have not been intelligent, forward thinking scholars and teachers that we could learn from over the last 2000 years that came through the churches (everybody had to).
So, I disagree, with both me avoiding the question and with all things having value. If, however I did avoid the question, I hope to have now answered it in your mind. The KKK has nothing of value I have ever seen, read or heard of. NAMBLA has yet to provide me with a message of value.
It’s pointless anyway, because it’s subjective. I don’t think catholic church has anything of value to add to society, or let me rephrase, they have perpetrated such horrors on society that no matter what else they do, no matter what other message they have, it is moot in my opinion.
Ah yes teen mothers….the price we pay for abstinance…..yawn.
Not sure how to take that, but yes indeed, it is the price we pay, but I won’t go along with the yawn part because along with the abstinence goes death.
George W’s policies and even worse, the pope’s abstinence message goes hand in hand with not using birth control, specifically condoms. Bush had a policy that any federally funded family planning clinic was not allowed to even use the term condom.
With that dip shit in the funny hat preaching this to the poor people in Africa, they are ignorantly spreading deadly disease.
Bristol Palin is simply amusing theater like her moron Mother.
Ah yes teen mothers….the price we pay for abstinance…..yawn.
Hey, you don’t start something like this without having a thick skin. Unlike christians and fox news, we can handle it in both directions, so to speak. You know what i mean. Christians and republicans definitely cannot handle it in both directions unless they’re Jimmy Swaggart or Priests.
I’ll get back to you as soon as my company leaves back for the land of milk and honey. That’s Germany, land of the heathens, pagans and atheists, not 72 virgins. I’m sure only in some deluded extremists mind are there 72 virgins left. Oh, and in the Palin household. Oh, wait, I forgot, she got knocked up when she was 16, then became abstinent.
Well, I retract my previous comment, there are millions of virgins, just not of the anal variety. I’ll get back to you my friend.
Well I look forward to being proven wrong, and then fucking off. In the mean time my comment was reflective not just of the small amount of currant readers, but of its potential for growth. By the way I said nothing about the length of time it took you to answer, take as much time as you want, I’m sure you need it. (That was a joke…relax.)
oh, yeah, and it’s brand new and you can fuck off if you don’t like it.
i’m sorry, i’ve been on a short vacation with my kids. i’ll flog them and get busy tomorrow.
If you have nothing to say, or are so unwilling to learn, that you refuse to admit when you are wrong, outstanding. But if you are unable to back up what you say, why would anyone waste their time reading your blog?? Counting me you had what, 4 responses? Good job man!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090520/ap_on_re_eu/eu_ireland_catholic_abuse
and the hits just keep on coming…………….
god,
I know it was hard to read, I copied and pasted it from another blog and this is how it posted sorry. I didn’t read your whole response because you answered a bunch of questions YUO asked. So I will go back and re post and edit it for clarity then read your response and add the answers that fit, and if you answered your own question, I’ll leave it out.
#48)zayla I understand completely, as far as having to respect their mothers wishes and would leave it at that,but YOU say “I wouldn’t let my kids go to a kkk meeting because they have nothing of value to add that is not necessarily so of church.”
Blackmetalworkshop said: What about self respect and protection of your community. I do not defend the klan but they do teach things that, if not for the teacher would be seen as positive. I have a family member who is a nazi skin-head and i love him very much but i hate the group he is a part of. the same goes for my christian family members. you seem to be focused on these “things of value” (that your children can get without church by the way) and ignoring the negatives (some they could not get out side of church).
This is how you quote mined: You quoted me as saying “what about self respect and protection of your community. i do not defend the klan but they do teach things that, if not for the teacher would be seen as positive”
The point is something of value can be found in the most evil groups on the planet, but that does not mean you should send them your children. Good job avoiding the question though.
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GOD said “Do you have children? If so, are you afraid to expose them to church? Are you so insecure that you’re as afraid of church as christians are of you? I’m not.
blackmetalworkshop said:Yes, YES, and, I am not a church, I am a person, my wife’s mother is EXTREAMLY christian and she sees her grand
daughter as much as she wants (almost every week-end sadly, but its the mother-in-law thing, way off topic) I don’t care what her religion is or isn’t.
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GOD said”I’v told my children that I want them to learn as much about all the different religions of the world as possible and then decide for themselves what makes sense. If they do that, I will respect their decision, and be proud of them.”
blackmetalworkshop said: Do you believe that is what the church tells them??
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GOD said:”My role as their Father is to guide and help them,”
blackmetalworkshop said: It seems the church is guiding them on the topic of christian theology. I have a bible in my house and if my child wants to read it she is more than welcome, and I as her father(or my wife)will answer her questions and I will have guided her as I should being her father, and when she decides she wants to go to church, great!
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GOD said ”not do exactly what we complain the church does, and keep them from being exposed to it.”
blackmetalworkshop said : whats this we stuff, i have never made that complaint nor can i remember any other atheists saying that(not that they haven’t, but is that what YOU say?)….
YOU responded here on THIS blog with: “I can only speak for myself and the other atheist I know. Maybe you don’t know very many atheists, which is probably not a very big stretch.”
MY response is: It is irrelevant how many atheists I KNOW, I have never personally complained that the church keeps kids from being exposed to it, nor have I ever heard another atheist make this complaint. Broken up paragraphs or not, this was written in English.
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GOD said: “They are only 8 & 10 and I talk to them about atheism, on a very small scale,”
blackmetalworkshop said: that’s kind of sad, do you think the minister at the church talks to them about christianity on a small scale? yes my daughter will have the right to decide for her self and i will not give her a hard time about it, but the fact is i DO hope she will choose to be an atheist, why would i not?? why are you an atheist????(the question marks are to indicate an important question.)
It is funny that you called your own answer “a stupid fucking question” but I understand, you thought it was someone else saying it….how honest.
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GOD said: “I have a great relationship with their Mother, my ex-wife and she respects my feelings and understands that they will learn from me as well.”
blackmetalworkshop said: I just mention this line to tell you cool! that is rare, and your kids are lucky.
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GOD said: “My philosophies apply to my kids when it comes to politics, finances, philosophy, etc., everything is up to them.”
blackmetalworkshop said:I honestly don’t understand what you were trying to say here, sorry.
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GOD said:”All I ask of them is that they make informed decisions and I will always back them up and respect it, as long as it is not harmful to them or others.”
blackmetalworkshop said:when a person feels morally justified in doing something immoral, like voting to deny other humans their own human and civil rights, that IS harmful to others, and that is at the very least what they will learn at church if they take its teachings to heart.
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GOD said: “Together nobody will be able to brainwash anyone.”
blackmetalworkshop said:Someone WILL be brainwashing someone, and when it comes to your kids YOU must decide who you want “brainwashing” your kids. as a father one of your jobs is to guide your children, that means YOU have to TEACH them things, they are kids, they can’t just “figure it out for themselves, of course it is your right to let the christian church teach them for you i guess. cheers and good luck.
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I hope this is easier for you to follow. The rest I will leave alone because again,you were answering ,and even making fun of your own statements, and defending mine, thinking you made them.
blackmetalworkshop:
Yes, I meant what I said, you can say whatever you want, unless I don’t like it, then I can just edit it and make it so I do like it. I’m just kidding. I’m not working for Fox.
I’m also having a hard time following your post, so forgive me if I go off topic. Just break up your paragraphs or something please.
what about self respect and protection of your community. i do not defend the klan but they do teach things that, if not for the teacher would be seen as positive
This is what you have to say about the KKK, that’s a bad start, and you are, by the way, defending the Klan.
Are you so insecure that you’re as afraid of church as christians are of you? I’m not.
I’m not insecure, but I am afraid of the church. I have history and facts on my side. I have REASON to be afraid of the church, everyone does. Ironically, I’m ready “Betrayal”, by The Investigative Staff of the Boston Globe right now. Try NOT being afraid of the church after reading that.
I don’t care what her religion is or isn’t. you said”I’v told my children that I want them to learn as much about all the different religions of the world as possible and then decide for themselves what makes sense. If they do that, I will respect their decision, and be proud of them.” do you believe that is what the church tells them?? you:”My role as their Father is to guide and help them,” it seems the church is guiding them on the topic of christian theology.
Here’s one of those parts where I’m confused as to what parts you’re saying, I said, or the combination, so I’ll do my best.
Do I believe that is what the church is telling them? I assume that’s what I wrote, because of course that’s not what the church is telling them, that’s my point, religions don’t give other points of view, hence the term “brainwashing”. The church is not guiding them in anything. Just how much impact does once a week Sunday School and church have on an 8 and 10 year old living with a parent that makes sure that IF they have a question, it’s actually answered honestly? Normal 8 and 10 year old kids have very little interest in religion and if they do, something wrong is going on.
whats this we stuff, i have never said that nor can i remember any other atheists saying that(not that they haven’t, but is that what YOU say?)…. you say “They are only 8 & 10 and I talk to them about atheism, on a very small scale,” that’s kind of sad, do you think the minister at the church talks to them about christianity on a small scale? yes my daughter will have the right to decide for her self and i will not give her a hard time about it, but the fact is i DO hope she will choose to be an atheist, why would i not?? why are you an atheist????(the question marks are to indicate an important question.)
I can only speak for myself and the other atheist I know. Maybe you don’t know very many atheists, which is probably not a very big stretch.
Do I think the minister talks about “christianity on a small scale to an 8 year old? how sad” No, I think they talk about 14th Century Roman and Middle Eastern rule and the philosophical differences taking place between the emerging empires. What a stupid fucking question. YES, and if not, maybe that’s why people are leaving the christians churches in droves. You better talk to an 8 and 10 year old like they’re 8 and 10.
Why on earth would I hope my kids end up believing in something that is harmful, pointless, wasteful and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, steals their money and wastes billions of dollars of taxpayers money and untold hours of wasted man hours? We could save the world if we took the time wasted from money and time spent on religion. A don’t even bother with the “all the time and money charity” nonsense because the scale is tipped so far the other way it’s not even close.
It like saying I hope my kid grows up with a personality disorder. If they do, there’s nothing I can do, I will love them just as much, but I sure as hell don’t wish it on them.
when a person feels morally justified in doing something immoral, like voting to deny other humans their own human and civil rights, that IS harmful to others
I agree. Like who should be allowed to marry who they love, not who a bunch of hypocritical judgmental bigots tell to them to, right? You’re right, that is harmful.
I agree. Like preventing the millions and millions of people with horrible diseases from possible medical advancements because of some hypocritical judgmental bigots theoretical idea of “life” in a freaking petri dish, from a embryo that already exists and his due to be fucking destroyed so it’s so sacred to let MILLIONS of people suffer due to other assholes “morality” who isn’t going to suffer.
I agree. Telling millions of poor, uneducated blind followers that condoms don’t work so these people, who actually believe the hypocritical scumbag actually go have sex and spread the disease thereby killing tens of thousands of people.
So, yes, denying others civil rights does bother me.
and that is at the very least what they will learn at church if they take its teachings to heart.
You bet, and as I have just outlined, that appears to be the last place where anyone will learn that lesson.
you say “Together nobody will be able to brainwash anyone.” Someone WILL be brainwashing someone, and when it comes to your kids YOU must decide who you want “brainwashing” your kids. as a father one of your jobs is to guide your children, that means YOU have to TEACH them things, they are kids, they can’t just “figure it out for themselves, of course it is your right to let the christian church teach them for you i guess.
Here I get all the way to bottom to find out you didn’t even really read my original post. My whole point was that between their parents, teachers, friends, relatives, people at the church, etc., they will NOT be brainwashed because I will not leave it to ONE place for them to get their education, such as a religion that teaches one way and one way only.
People always make the same mistakes. I respect everyone’s personal belief, plus I don’t care. I don’t believe in any god for my own reasons.
However, when it comes to religion and church, FUCK THEM, they have done more damage to the world than everything else combined, and if they spent the rest of eternity trying to make up for they’ll never get there (mostly because they’ll keep screwing people at the same time).
Hello Zayla, you said this was no holds barred, so I guess it is ok to get off topic and I really do have to before I can make the decision to continue to visit and read your thoughts. I need to go back a couple months and answer the questions you never answered, if possible. So here it is:
#48)zayla I understand completely, as far as having to respect their mothers wishes and would leave it at that,but you say “I wouldn’t let my kids go to a kkk meeting because they have nothing of value to add ( me-what about self respect and protection of your community. i do not defend the klan but they do teach things that, if not for the teacher would be seen as positive. ), that is not necessarily so of church.” so now i wonder what that is. I have a family member who is a nazi skin-head and i love him very much but i hate the group he is a part of. the same goes for my christian family members. you seem to be focused on these “things of value” (that your children can get without church by the way) and ignoring the negatives (some they could not get out side of church). you said “Do you have children? If so, are you afraid to expose them to church? Are you so insecure that you’re as afraid of church as christians are of you? I’m not.
Yes, YES, and, I am not a church, i am a person, my wife’s mother is EXTREAMLY christian and she sees her grand daughter as much as she wants (almost every week-end sadly, but its the mother-in-law thing, way off topic) I don’t care what her religion is or isn’t. you said”I’v told my children that I want them to learn as much about all the different religions of the world as possible and then decide for themselves what makes sense. If they do that, I will respect their decision, and be proud of them.” do you believe that is what the church tells them?? you:”My role as their Father is to guide and help them,” it seems the church is guiding them on the topic of christian theology. i have a bible in my house and if my child wants to read it she is more than welcome, and i as her father(or my wife)will answer her questions and i will have guided her as i should being her father, and when she decides she wants to go to church, great! you say”not do exactly what we complain the church does, and keep them from being exposed to it.” whats this we stuff, i have never said that nor can i remember any other atheists saying that(not that they haven’t, but is that what YOU say?)…. you say “They are only 8 & 10 and I talk to them about atheism, on a very small scale,” that’s kind of sad, do you think the minister at the church talks to them about christianity on a small scale? yes my daughter will have the right to decide for her self and i will not give her a hard time about it, but the fact is i DO hope she will choose to be an atheist, why would i not?? why are you an atheist????(the question marks are to indicate an important question.) you say “I have a great relationship with their Mother, my ex-wife and she respects my feelings and understands that they will learn from me as well.” i just mention this line to tell you cool! that is rare, and your kids are lucky.
you said “My philosophies apply to my kids when it comes to politics, finances, philosophy, etc., everything is up to them.” i honestly don’t understand what you were trying to say here, sorry.
you say”All I ask of them is that they make informed decisions and I will always back them up and respect it, as long as it is not harmful to them or others.” when a person feels morally justified in doing something immoral, like voting to deny other humans their own human and civil rights, that IS harmful to others, and that is at the very least what they will learn at church if they take its teachings to heart. you say “Together nobody will be able to brainwash anyone.” Someone WILL be brainwashing someone, and when it comes to your kids YOU must decide who you want “brainwashing” your kids. as a father one of your jobs is to guide your children, that means YOU have to TEACH them things, they are kids, they can’t just “figure it out for themselves, of course it is your right to let the christian church teach them for you i guess. cheers and good luck.
It’s the hat that does it for me, and all the jewelry…makes him look like a cross between a mafioso and a klansman. Also today he was talking on the radio and he has this old man voice with a German accent which made him extra creepy.
The pope pisses me off on so many different levels, but the kicker has got the shit about birth control and condoms in particular…you must be SHITTING me that he thinks it is a good idea to tell desperately poor people in parts of the world where many, many people are HIV positive and have limited access to heathcare that condoms are naughty, as well as LYING to people that they don’t work. Asshole.